Green Wing Special extras
Jan. 6th, 2007 08:43 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
girlofpreyThe Green Wing special DVD came this morning. 11 hours later my nephew has gone home and I can post about it.
They were great. Almost entirely. I'm not sure if I didn't notice how good some of the left-in scenes were because of following the plot, or if these scenes are better because they're in isolation from the weirdness of the Caroline/Mac, but it really does seem like the special would have been better and more rounded if they'd been left in. But then I got to DISCOVER THEM this morning on DVD, so I guess it balances out.
Naturally they are about what really makes Green Wing great: the relationships/'ships that aren't Caroline/Mac. I know I'm a bit biased against it, but it still sits better when there's "ensembleness" around it. Also quite a lot of them are Guy scenes, which I assume in my paranoid way is because they'd have made Guy look more like a character/rival, and taken away from the Caroline/Mac. Also I'm just annoyed because I love him and want him onscreen ALL THE TIME.
Anyway. A lot of the scenes are Alan and Joanna, and more of the same as we had on the night, really. The others I have lovingly screencapped/described below.
Except for the ones I just watched/forgot about, of course.
There was:
One
The one where we find out Angela left Caroline her harp in her will. No lie. But you can't really screencap it. Caroline's mostly annoyed about it, but the love/denial is clearly there. Also Guy tries to steal a flower arrangement, and is adorable.
Two
The one where Guypretends he's marrying Mac taunts Mac with confetti. Shoutout to the film? I don't know.
I realised during the special that it just looks like Mac's smirking all the time, and it's part of why he annoys me a bit, but he really does do it more when Guy does something beautiful and crazy. I'm supposed to believe it's because he hates Guy and thinks he's a wanker, apparently. Guy taunts Mac, but then when Mac (inevitably) gets pissed off and insulting, throws confetti on him and says "You can have some too!". Love.
Three
One where Guy makes Martin try to prove his best manliness with some VERY ODD methods. Odd-looking. Easily misconstrued. And uses him as a table and footstool. Apparently I was too busy watching to screencap.
Four
The one where Guy and Sue sing a duet...
Before she realises it's him she's singing with and kicks him out.
Five
The one where Guy goes to order the wedding cake, and looks beautiful.
He insists there be jellybabies on the cake. And, also, Mac, with the bride and groom.
He's holding 'an inconsolable ginger doctor, who's clearly realised he lost to the better man'.
And then he asks her to make the Mac-figure look gay.
She suggests a handbag. I love her.
Six
The one where Caroline asks for a sign about who she should marry, then cries because she gets a sign for both of them, and I inexplicably start shipping Boyce/Caroline.
Seven
The one where Sue suggests Caroline overcomes having to choose between marrying Mac or Guy by flying to Vegas and marrying her instead. Note the 'big lesbo wedding' dress she's already wearing. Caroline proves her vague rubbishness by saying she won't even think about it, because the thought makes her vaguely ill. It's interesting that I seem to judge a character's rubbishness in this show by how gay they refuse to be. NO WORRIES FOR GUY, obviously.
Eight
There's the one where Guy runs up to Mac in the changing room, ignores the crack about incest, and declares he's found a cure for Mac's illness.
He did research on the internet and miraculously found a cure. "God is an attractive Swiss doctor called Guy Secretan".
He angsts when Mac points out that his illness is spelt with an 'ea', not an 'ae'. Mac consoles him.
Then himself.
And a bit more stuff about how fucking terrified Mac was about dying would really have made me like him a lot more.
And who did he tell? Guy. Guy ha-ha-I'm-marrying-your-girl Secretan. No-one else. You could argue that he knew Guy would tell everyone else, but Guy was the one he went to first, and Guy was rubbish at it, and he tried to let him drunkenly forget about it, but Guy couldn't, and there was nothing either of them could do, and they were both just rubbish and silent, and ::heart::
Nine
And a bunch of others I've probably forgotten, and definitely some stuff with Guy from the wedding, and Sue, but the last one I loved was one of Guy and Caroline, pre-wedding.
They still make an effort to make him a bit of a twat, for some reason, but they talk to each other, and neither of them are perfect, and he lets her go, and they both still fancy each other, and I love their easy, beautiful body language, and I don't know if it's because it's Guy and Caroline or because they're not the "One True Couple".
I broke a bit, and loved them all over again, and why must they push Mac/Caroline so pointlessly when Guy/Caroline is beautiful? Why?
Her last kiss as a single person.
OH, WHY DON'T THEY ALL GET MARRIED?
Well. It's pretty obvious no marriage between Mac and Caroline will be without Guy, anyway. I doubt either of them would let him go anyway.
The 'alternate ending' is a half-alternative/half-extended ending where Guy and Mac both manage to grab Caroline's legs as she floats away, and then argue about who's got her, how well she shaved, and whether or not they're all going to die. Guy thinks Mac should jump, since he's going to die anyway. But THAT WON'T HELP THEM GET DOWN. Caroline at one point wants Guy to jump, not because she wants him to die, but because she doesn't want him to float to heaven with her and Mac - Mac at this point says "That's not fair". Then he tries to get Guy to jump when Guy reveals his apparent atheism and says there is no heaven. Guy will jump to prove that, but not right that second. The whole thing ends with Caroline saying "We're all going to die", and Mac saying they're not, and then; "Caroline...there's something I've been meaning to tell you...". Which seems to me like he's about to suddenly spring on her that he's not dying, which is, oh, A WANKY THING TO NOT TELL THE WOMAN WHO IS GOING TO MARRY YOU! But maybe I'm just biased by the Green Wing newsletter saying the last line was something 'Mac fans still in denial should watch out for'. I have the shame of sort of not wanting Mac to die because I still think if he ever sorted himself out the Guy/Mac would be beautiful, damn it!
Also we get shots of Alan and Joanna clinging to a buoy out at sea, Joanna still saying she's hungry and Alan saying not to worry about it because they'll drown soon. I think maybe not.
So that's the end of Green Wing. Except for the possible spin-off. And my continuing, endless love of the slash.
They were great. Almost entirely. I'm not sure if I didn't notice how good some of the left-in scenes were because of following the plot, or if these scenes are better because they're in isolation from the weirdness of the Caroline/Mac, but it really does seem like the special would have been better and more rounded if they'd been left in. But then I got to DISCOVER THEM this morning on DVD, so I guess it balances out.
Naturally they are about what really makes Green Wing great: the relationships/'ships that aren't Caroline/Mac. I know I'm a bit biased against it, but it still sits better when there's "ensembleness" around it. Also quite a lot of them are Guy scenes, which I assume in my paranoid way is because they'd have made Guy look more like a character/rival, and taken away from the Caroline/Mac. Also I'm just annoyed because I love him and want him onscreen ALL THE TIME.
Anyway. A lot of the scenes are Alan and Joanna, and more of the same as we had on the night, really. The others I have lovingly screencapped/described below.
Except for the ones I just watched/forgot about, of course.
There was:
One
The one where we find out Angela left Caroline her harp in her will. No lie. But you can't really screencap it. Caroline's mostly annoyed about it, but the love/denial is clearly there. Also Guy tries to steal a flower arrangement, and is adorable.
Two
The one where Guy
I realised during the special that it just looks like Mac's smirking all the time, and it's part of why he annoys me a bit, but he really does do it more when Guy does something beautiful and crazy. I'm supposed to believe it's because he hates Guy and thinks he's a wanker, apparently. Guy taunts Mac, but then when Mac (inevitably) gets pissed off and insulting, throws confetti on him and says "You can have some too!". Love.
Three
One where Guy makes Martin try to prove his best manliness with some VERY ODD methods. Odd-looking. Easily misconstrued. And uses him as a table and footstool. Apparently I was too busy watching to screencap.
Four
The one where Guy and Sue sing a duet...
Before she realises it's him she's singing with and kicks him out.
Five
The one where Guy goes to order the wedding cake, and looks beautiful.
He insists there be jellybabies on the cake. And, also, Mac, with the bride and groom.
He's holding 'an inconsolable ginger doctor, who's clearly realised he lost to the better man'.
And then he asks her to make the Mac-figure look gay.
She suggests a handbag. I love her.
Six
The one where Caroline asks for a sign about who she should marry, then cries because she gets a sign for both of them, and I inexplicably start shipping Boyce/Caroline.
Seven
The one where Sue suggests Caroline overcomes having to choose between marrying Mac or Guy by flying to Vegas and marrying her instead. Note the 'big lesbo wedding' dress she's already wearing. Caroline proves her vague rubbishness by saying she won't even think about it, because the thought makes her vaguely ill. It's interesting that I seem to judge a character's rubbishness in this show by how gay they refuse to be. NO WORRIES FOR GUY, obviously.
Eight
There's the one where Guy runs up to Mac in the changing room, ignores the crack about incest, and declares he's found a cure for Mac's illness.
He did research on the internet and miraculously found a cure. "God is an attractive Swiss doctor called Guy Secretan".
He angsts when Mac points out that his illness is spelt with an 'ea', not an 'ae'. Mac consoles him.
Then himself.
And a bit more stuff about how fucking terrified Mac was about dying would really have made me like him a lot more.
And who did he tell? Guy. Guy ha-ha-I'm-marrying-your-girl Secretan. No-one else. You could argue that he knew Guy would tell everyone else, but Guy was the one he went to first, and Guy was rubbish at it, and he tried to let him drunkenly forget about it, but Guy couldn't, and there was nothing either of them could do, and they were both just rubbish and silent, and ::heart::
Nine
And a bunch of others I've probably forgotten, and definitely some stuff with Guy from the wedding, and Sue, but the last one I loved was one of Guy and Caroline, pre-wedding.
They still make an effort to make him a bit of a twat, for some reason, but they talk to each other, and neither of them are perfect, and he lets her go, and they both still fancy each other, and I love their easy, beautiful body language, and I don't know if it's because it's Guy and Caroline or because they're not the "One True Couple".
I broke a bit, and loved them all over again, and why must they push Mac/Caroline so pointlessly when Guy/Caroline is beautiful? Why?
Her last kiss as a single person.
OH, WHY DON'T THEY ALL GET MARRIED?
Well. It's pretty obvious no marriage between Mac and Caroline will be without Guy, anyway. I doubt either of them would let him go anyway.
The 'alternate ending' is a half-alternative/half-extended ending where Guy and Mac both manage to grab Caroline's legs as she floats away, and then argue about who's got her, how well she shaved, and whether or not they're all going to die. Guy thinks Mac should jump, since he's going to die anyway. But THAT WON'T HELP THEM GET DOWN. Caroline at one point wants Guy to jump, not because she wants him to die, but because she doesn't want him to float to heaven with her and Mac - Mac at this point says "That's not fair". Then he tries to get Guy to jump when Guy reveals his apparent atheism and says there is no heaven. Guy will jump to prove that, but not right that second. The whole thing ends with Caroline saying "We're all going to die", and Mac saying they're not, and then; "Caroline...there's something I've been meaning to tell you...". Which seems to me like he's about to suddenly spring on her that he's not dying, which is, oh, A WANKY THING TO NOT TELL THE WOMAN WHO IS GOING TO MARRY YOU! But maybe I'm just biased by the Green Wing newsletter saying the last line was something 'Mac fans still in denial should watch out for'. I have the shame of sort of not wanting Mac to die because I still think if he ever sorted himself out the Guy/Mac would be beautiful, damn it!
Also we get shots of Alan and Joanna clinging to a buoy out at sea, Joanna still saying she's hungry and Alan saying not to worry about it because they'll drown soon. I think maybe not.
So that's the end of Green Wing. Except for the possible spin-off. And my continuing, endless love of the slash.
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Date: 2007-01-06 10:44 pm (UTC)Oh, he definitely tells Guy because of Their Love. When I watched that I thought about how I am with my best friend, who's probably the most important person in my life and who I always tell everything first even though she's rubbish at consoling and also tends to be awkwardly silent, possibly with a bit of patting. I think it's quite often simply about how much you love someone and he definitely loves Guy. That is Proof as far as I am concerned.
The bloke who plays Mac CANNOT ACT AT ALL. This amuses me endlessly. Apart from when he's kissing or crying, then he does alright. I think it's mostly his voice that's the problem. OH, that Boyce/Caroline pic is BEAUTIFUL. I like that they drink Maltesers. Guy's angst over Mac was so beautiful in the non-deleted-scenes that I saw, his little face of REAL SERIOUS NOT-PLAYING-IT-UP heartbreak! omg.
I still sort of want Guy/Sue. *sigh* That scene in episode 3 in the coat rack just WON ME FOR EVER, I'm afraid.
Ahaha, I knew Mac wasn't really dying. It is a Mettyfor, baby! Or maybe he'll just never actually get round to it, and several years down the line they'll both cotton on and be like "... hey!".
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Date: 2007-01-07 01:31 am (UTC)I don't know about the Mactor's acting. I think maybe it's the kind of character he's playing, all cool and suave and nothing-touches-me. They made kind of a nod towards that in Season 2, with Caroline complaining about the constant games, but they keep undoing stuff from season 2 so I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK. I haven't seen Julian Rhind-Tutt (Mactor) in anything else, besides Black Books, though. The people on the comm love him. I don't entirely trust their judgement.
Hah. The first scene for me that pinged - well the Guy/Caroline kiss at the party was hot - but the first bit that made me sit up was when Guy and Mac fought and Mac ended up smashing his head into a locker and forcing him to apologise. I have been HOOKED EVER SINCE. Maybe it's a Green Wing thing. We should experiment. For some reason I can't see Sue with anyone. Maybe because she's just too mad lately - in the first season it was alright, because it was clearly partly caused by the people she had to put up with (see: Statham). But now it's just a bit too out there. Except for Caroline, perhaps. I'm a slasher at heart anyways. DON'T TRY TO CHANGE ME BABY.
In conclusion: I love the deleted scenes, and Green Wing, and you :D
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Date: 2007-01-08 09:34 am (UTC)I also have thought of Boyce/Caroline but they hardly ever had any scenes together.
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Date: 2007-01-08 11:46 am (UTC)