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Hollyoaks.

O. M. G.

::cries::

[livejournal.com profile] tiniago!! Come cry with me, bitch!! ::cries some more::

And now I'm listening to Damien Rice, and it's just ::cries::!

ETA: Omg, randomly appropriate icon!

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Date: 2005-08-19 01:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiniago.livejournal.com
OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD.

*clings and weeps*

noooooooo Ali nooooo oh god AIEEEEE oh no Justin oh noooooo

*more clinging, more weeping*

Curse you, Hollyoaks! Curse you!

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Date: 2005-08-19 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] girlofprey.livejournal.com
My sister MERCILESSLY stole my internet, or I would have been here earlier for commiserations. Omg.

The touching on the forehead.

The 'I'll stay with him'

The 'Don't worry about the other thing, I took care of it'

And Justin just looking so horribly vulnerable and fucked-up when talking to the policeman.

And then the walk down the hallway and the omg omg omg, and the slightly wild 'He's dead!'.

When Macki died I thought 'omg, serious!', but imagined he and Ali would have a 'we'll be alright', then 'I'll say I did it' (from Justin), 'no you won't I'll say I did it'

And then the flatlining and the giving up and Ali died and I was just O. M. G. And of the three people who know what happened that day - the only one who didn't really want to be involved in it - Justin was suddenly all alone.

And then he sobbed into a door!

Heart. Broken. Omg.

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Date: 2005-08-19 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiniago.livejournal.com
Oh GOD. The forehead stroking. I know it's just HO being inept, but Justin really was sort of portrayed as the chief mourner, wasn't he? His reaction shots got so much more time than everyone else, and he spent more time with Ali and took the lead in talking to him and stuff, instead of Darlene, who's his blood relative. I know it's just because a) Justin's a more central character and b) the actor can actually act, but still.

He can act and all. He was just dripping so much pain and grief and horror while staying very recognisably Justin and oh. It hurt to see. His little face and how can he stand it? Oh baby. It broke him, it broke him, he is so broken. I just. Ignoring the fact that the writers will in actuality almost certainly fuck it up, how is he ever going to get over this? Even in a non-slashy interpretation? It's such a terrible, terrible thing, worse than anything else that's ever happened except maybe his dad dying, and oh god oh god. *twitches*

Yeah, I was seriously expecting Ali to recover. I thought maybe Justin'd take the blame and Ali would be seriously out of it for weeks and wake up when proceedings against Justin were already rolling nicely along and have to be brave and then say "I did it!". It would still have been fucked up though, because hello, murder.

Hollyoaks have the worst resus people ever. Talk about the postcode lottery. Sometimes resus teams go on for hours; they'd certainly give it forty minutes or so on a kid that young and healthy. I suppose it's better than the special late night episode where the paramedics came along, gave Steph about two minutes then pronounced her dead and fucked off and left her with her friends on the river bank. Oh, Hollyoaks, you don't even try, do you?

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Date: 2005-08-20 09:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] girlofprey.livejournal.com
Hurray for Hollyoaks and its ineptness. It's gay, gay ineptness.

He can so ACT! I never really noticed before, only in that he was good, and I liked Justin. But the way he said 'he's dead!' - and the crying - I was floored, omg.

It is so true. I don't even ship Justin/Ali, like some people ::eyes you::, and I just CAN'T STAND THE PAIN! Oh, the pain! Oh, Justin! Oh, how much do you actually have to go through?

Fuck the writers - it's the privilege of fandom ;) I don't care what they do to the story from now on, that moment is going to live FOREVER in my mind. One of the few times a soap/TV programme - especially Hollyoaks has really got to me and suprised me and omg. Justin.

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Date: 2005-08-20 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiniago.livejournal.com
I don't even ship Justin/Ali, like some people ::eyes you::

Oho, of course you don't. Not enough incest for you, eh? EH? Not enough freaky power abuse issues? Not enough utensils in place of appendages, eh? *bulging eyes of bulge*

It's true, it was really good. One thing Hollyoaks is uniquely suited to do is death in a way that other shows can't. Because the characters get to be around for ages and they are quite recognisable, human people (to a variable degree, depending on the actors) and you can get a vivid picture of the people and the relationships if you're concentrating and lucky and they don't get character raped - and the Justin family dynamics mostly didn't that much, although it looks like they're heading for it now - and when you're not expecting the death, like this, and it's not some big ratings war thing... then it's just really, really powerful. A very good depiction of death; the sort of pointless, non-narrative-construction way of it, and the way you got to see his family react and the awfulness and the waiting and the confusion and the terror. And, y'know, there's going to be this awful loss and we can feel what it means for his family and we're going to feel the absence of his place in the story and ouch. I actually find it realistic enough that it's tapping into real-world feelings about death and things, and that's powerful. And edging on painful. WAAAAAAAAAAH. Oh, I can't believe I'm getting this serious about Hollyoaks, SHOOT ME NOW.

*clings to you YET MORE*

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Date: 2005-08-21 05:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] girlofprey.livejournal.com
of course you don't. Not enough incest for you, eh? EH? Not enough freaky power abuse issues? Not enough utensils in place of appendages, eh?

Eek! Ack! Flail! ::throws things at you!:: Ignore the woman behind the kinks!!

I agree with you about the ratings war thing. This is totally the show where you can't think 'oh, well they can't kill [so-and-so], there'd be national outrage!' Because no-one that much cares. And the loss because of this, because no-one's expecting it. And the non-narrativeness, because let's face it, that's Hollyoaks' bag, baby.

But after Dan's death, which got all of, oh, three weeks mourning and a casual mention now and then, and an excuse to turn Lisa into a dirty whore, I'm not that convinced about Hollyoaks' death-abilities. But they do tend to give you a few episodes of realistic, people-sitting-in-their-living-room-quietly-not-crying type shots, I suppose.

::clings again in inappropriate seriousness:: :(
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