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[girlofprey]

So the Wylde storyline on Emmerdale kind of came to a head tonight. At any rate, Nathan confessed, then Natasha confessed, and Maisie called the police, and Natasha has been arrested. Here is what happened, INTERSPERSED WITH SOME STORYLINES THAT WERE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WYLDES AND WHICH INFURIATED ME WHENEVER THEY CAME ON:

• Cain had Nathan tied up in a barn, with both of them knowing that Ryan had been found guilty. Nathan was not terrified like he was yesterday, but seemed fairly convinced that Cain wouldn't either kill or torture him, and was even back on calling Ryan a murderer when they both know it's not true.



• Declan came back from Singapore and got to the court just as Maisie and Faye were coming out. They both shouted at Natasha a bit, then he went off to comfort Faye, and Maisie got a mysterious call.



• Natasha got home to find Will there, having basically run away from some woman named Helen she'd left him with, and she told him about Ryan being found guilty, 'explained' about how Ryan was apparently a murderer, and that he hadn't hated Will, he was just angry at his dad.



• Declan appeared getting out of a taxi with Faye in the village, having come back from court and apparently left Maisie there?



• Maisie suddenly turned up at the barn where Cain was keeping Nathan, so actually maybe she left before Declan.



• Nathan had already tried to buy Cain off, claiming "there's always a price with you", but Cain had refused. Maisie called him, he blindfolded Nathan, telling him he'd invited someone else along. Then he went outside to get her and brought her in, and Nathan, unable to see her, begged whoever it was to help him, telling them whatever Cain had said was a lie.



• Cain removed the blindfold, Nathan saw it was Maisie, he said "Thank God it's you", and asked her to untie him, and told her Cain had kidnapped him and been torturing him. Maisie dropped her bag and made it quite clear she wouldn't be untying anyone.



• Nathan told her Cain had been manipulating her, that because she was vulnerable he'd made her believe what he wanted her to believe. She said, "Oh, because I'm such a PUSHOVER, and you've always been the clever one?", and Nathan looked at her and said "Not now, Maisie. Please just untie me."



• Maisie kept insisting that he'd killed their dad. Nathan swore that he hadn't, that he could never have hurt him. She refused to believe him, and I think picked up a wooden beam. Nathan told Maisie he loved her. Maisie lifted the beam. Nathan told her he was lying for her, because the truth would kill her, and begged her not to hurt him. Maisie lifted the beam again. Nathan told her it was their mum that had killed their dad. Maisie dropped the beam and looked distraught. Cain looked intrigued.



• We went back to Home Farm, where Natasha had explained that Maisie was staying with Faye for a while and Nathan was away for a bit as well. Will was saying that it was just those two then, and that he'd take care of her while Maisie and Nathan were gone. Natasha laughed and said something about supper being ready soon. She went into the kitchen, looking slightly upset, and like some kind of assassin, Cain was waiting for her.



• Cain asked Natasha how Nathan was. She said he was fine, he was just away for a bit. He said he had some news about him that was all, but if he was fine, alright. Then she either asked him to stop playing games, or he just out and out said that actually Nathan had been staying with him for a bit, and the text she got from him the other day wasn't actually from him, showing her Nathan's phone from out of his pocket. He told her to come with him if she wanted to find out where he was. Will walked in, and Cain pretended to be all friendly with him, and asked him if he'd like to come on a drive. Will said yes, Natasha refused, and he said he wasn't staying in the house on his own, so Natasha told him to go get his coat.



• Meanwhile, in the barn, Nathan was lying tied up on the floor with Maisie standing over him. She said she couldn't believe he was lying again, he'd lied that it was Ryan, and now he was lying that it was mum, all he cared about was himself. He admitted that he'd lied on the stand, and asked her what she would have done if their mum had come to her and told her she'd murdered their dad. Maisie continued to refuse to believe it was their mum and not him, and kicked him in the stomach.



• Cain, Natasha and Will arrived at the barn, they all got out and Natasha asked him what he wanted to show them then. Then they heard Nathan shouting/screaming in the barn, Natasha ordered Will to get back into the car and ran into the barn, with Cain just behind her.



• In the barn, Maisie was beating the tied up Nathan with the wooden beam from earlier, apparently. She saw their mum, and told her she had to stop lying for Nathan. Nathan told her that he'd had to tell Maisie the truth because he'd thought she was going to kill him. Maisie said couldn't she see, he was lying about her now, she (Natasha) had to go to the police and tell the truth about what had happened, she might get into a bit of trouble, but she could just say that he scared her, or that he attacked her like he'd attacked Faye (but hopefully not exactly like he'd attacked Faye), but she had to get him sent to prison. Because it wasn't true was it? That she'd murdered their dad? How could she have ever have hurt their dad? Natasha took her sweet time, looking down at Nathan, and up at Maisie, but eventually said that yes, actually. Nathan hadn't killed their father. She had.



• Maisie continued to refuse to believe Natasha had killed her dad, and Nathan hadn't. She said she couldn't believe she was lying for him, even now, she knew Nathan was always her favourite, but she couldn't keep protecting him. Natasha ran up to her and grabbed her by the shoulders. Unbeknownst to her, but probably seen by Cain, Will came into the barn behind them. Natasha said that she was the one who had gone out into the woods, that she had been holding the gun, and that she had pulled the trigger, alright? Will said, "Mum?", and she turned around, crying.



• The next scene was them all sitting around in different positions, Maisie on a chair, Natasha knelt beside her I think, Nathan leaning against a wall, Will stood by the door, Cain stood just a little way in front of him. Cain said he didn't think Natasha had had it in her. "Respect". Fuck off Cain. Maisie wanted to know why Natasha had done it. Nathan said it was because their dad had played her for a fool once too often. Natasha said it was because she'd never known that he was planning to run off with Faye again, that she found out the same day Maisie found out about Ryan. Maisie told her to "Say it!". And then said "I fell in love with my brother!". Then we saw Nathan looking worriedly at Will and Will's sad, shocked face. Natasha explained that when she first found out about Faye, she'd forgiven Mark, and then she found out he was planning to run off with her again, and to leave them all. She told them about how she'd come home to find a gun missing, their dad disappeared, and a note, and she'd run out into the woods to find him. Maisie told her not to dare claimed he'd killed himself, and Natasha said "No, in the end he was too much of a coward to even do that". And then he'd just acted like nothing had happened, like everything was just normal, and something inside her just - And then he was lying there, so still, and she walked over to him and said "C'mon, get up. I'm sorry, baby". But he couldn't get up. They all cried.



• Maisie said that she couldn't have buried him all on her own, she must have had Nathan's help. Because apparently no matter what happened, it must be Nathan's fault. Natasha said the ground was frozen, and it had taken her all night, but she'd done it herself. Maisie looked at Nathan and asked him why, why he'd helped her cover it up, why frame Ryan. He said it was an easy choice to make, his mum or Ryan. Natasha (happily) told them she'd forced him to keep quiet. Maisie said she didn't believe it though, that she thought he'd framed Ryan because he knew their dad loved him more than Nathan, that Ryan was the son he'd always wanted, instead of Nathan. Cain chipped in that he was 10 times the man Nathan would ever be, while we saw Nathan looking sort of down at the floor, like he thought it was probably true, which knowing Nathan, he might well have done.



• Natasha told Maisie it wasn't too late, that they could all go away somewhere, tonight, and that she promised she'd make amends. Nathan said it was the only thing that made sense. Maisie said "What, and leave Ryan to rot?". To be honest, I'm not a big fan of Ryan - I don't like how he ignored Maisie's breakdown after they found out they'd nearly slept together as brother and sister, and how he just got back together with the girlfriend he'd cheated on, and I don't really like how he didn't care that Abi the prison guard nearly got into trouble over trying to help him a few weeks ago. I know he was having a difficult time of it himself both those times, but still, I'm not a fan. But he doesn't really deserve to be left in jail like that. Natasha held up her phone and said that if Maisie didn't say anything, she (Natasha) could walk out of there a free woman, or she could use the phone and have her arrested. Maisie took the phone. Nathan started crying, I think. Maisie called the police.



• Natasha was in the barn again. She told Maisie "You know you're sending me to prison, don't you?". YES I THINK SHE KNOWS THAT NATASHA. Maisie possibly said something, I can't remember.



• We cut to Natasha cutting through the ropes tying Nathan's hands, which may have been symbolic now that I think about it. He told her that there was still time, she could run, he said "Please, mum", go. She put her hand on his face, AND THANK FUCK SOMEONE DID THAT, I SINCERELY WANTED SOMEONE TO TOUCH NATHAN'S FACE BEFORE THIS WHOLE ORDEAL WAS OVER, EVEN IF IT WAS NATASHA. And possibly she told him that she couldn't run. She told him to look after Maisie and Will, I think. She asked Maisie if all her years of love and care meant nothing, then, and actually, possibly this was before, when Maisie called the police on her. Fuck off, Natasha. Then she told Will that whatever she'd done, it didn't mean she loved him any less. He just looked at her. Then she went outside, where a bunch of police cars had pulled up, and the detective in charge of the Mark Wylde case had got out, and she walked over to them until two walked up, took her by the arms and arrested her.

So, the truth is out. Natasha has been arrested, and apparently it was Amanda Donohoe's last day on the programme. Ryan will probably be freed soon. Everyone still hates Nathan. And Declan is somewhere around. Probably the fall-out will happen over the next few days. I hope it is a happy (ish) ending for Nathan. I hope that quite a lot.

Also there was quite scary new Poirot on tonight. I can't tell if it's part of the modern adaptations, but were there always so many lesbian couples in the Agatha Christie books? Also, that kid's going to have great life, isn't she? Oh well.

And I had my first group CBT therapy session today as well. It was alright, not too bad, there's only about four people other than me, and the woman running it said we don't have to talk or share at all over the weeks if we keep going, which is quite nice. For my social awkwardness/anxiety, at least. Also, I'm pretty sure there was a Jon Burgerman picture on the wall, which was quite nice to see, if nothing else. Hurrah.

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[hestia8.livejournal.com]

I LOVED the bit where will was like ‘so Ryan’s a murderer’ and Natasha said ‘well, the jury think so’.

...Declan appeared getting out of a taxi with Faye in the village, having come back from court and apparently left Maisie there?

I wondered about that! I wondered if she’d disappeared before the taxi left when she got the call, otherwise it was a bit odd.

...Nathan had already tried to buy Cain off, claiming "there's always a price with you", but Cain had refused.

And let’s be honest, Nathan’s right, there is always a price with Cain. It’s just not always financial.

...Nathan told her Cain had been manipulating her, that because she was vulnerable he'd made her believe what he wanted her to believe. She said, "Oh, because I'm such a PUSHOVER, and you've always been the clever one?", and Nathan looked at her and said "Not now, Maisie. Please just untie me."

I KNOW. MAISIE.

...Maisie kept insisting that he'd killed their dad. Nathan swore that he hadn't, that he could never have hurt him. She refused to believe him, and I think picked up a wooden beam. Nathan told Maisie he loved her. Maisie lifted the beam. Nathan told her he was lying for her, because the truth would kill her, and begged her not to hurt him. Maisie lifted the beam again. Nathan told her it was their mum that had killed their dad. Maisie dropped the beam and looked distraught. Cain looked intrigued.

While I do not like Cain at all, I thought having him involved in this episode worked. Someone needed to be there looking from the outside, and I don’t think it would have worked quite as well with Declan. Also, Cain’s a manipulative bastard and was clearly enjoying himself.

...Will walked in, and Cain pretended to be all friendly with him, and asked him if he'd like to come on a drive. Will said yes, Natasha refused, and he said he wasn't staying in the house on his own, so Natasha told him to go get his coat.

I did think Cain insisting on bringing Will was quite dodgy. Does he want to fuck him up for life too?

...He admitted that he'd lied on the stand, and asked her what she would have done if their mum had come to her and told her she'd murdered their dad. Maisie continued to refuse to believe it was their mum and not him, and kicked him in the stomach.

Oh, NATHAN.

...Natasha took her sweet time, looking down at Nathan, and up at Maisie, but eventually said that yes, actually. Nathan hadn't killed their father. She had.

Right up until she said it, I did wonder if she was going to lie. I mean, I know she had to admit it at some point this week anyway, but I wondered if she might make things worse for Nathan.

...Natasha said that she was the one who had gone out into the woods, that she had been holding the gun, and that she had pulled the trigger, alright? Will said, "Mum?", and she turned around, crying.

I feel bad for Will. That kid has no chance. I’m not sure staying with Nathan and/or Maisie would be good for him, tbh.

...Cain said he didn't think Natasha had had it in her. "Respect". Fuck off Cain.

Which is what he said when he thought Nathan had done it. Cain is so WEIRD.

Maisie said that she couldn't have buried him all on her own, she must have had Nathan's help. Because apparently no matter what happened, it must be Nathan's fault.

OH GOD I KNOW. She just wouldn’t let go of the idea that he’d been involved.

...Maisie said she didn't believe it though, that she thought he'd framed Ryan because he knew their dad loved him more than Nathan, that Ryan was the son he'd always wanted, instead of Nathan. Cain chipped in that he was 10 times the man Nathan would ever be, while we saw Nathan looking sort of down at the floor, like he thought it was probably true, which knowing Nathan, he might well have done.

From which I essentially conclude that Mark was a bastard.

[girlofprey.livejournal.com]

While I do not like Cain at all, I thought having him involved in this episode worked.

I kind of agree, obviously nothing would have happened at all without Cain kidnapping Nathan, and then bringing Maisie along. And he was the only one of the two of them that seemed ready to believe that Natasha might have killed Mark, obviously. He didn't care like Maisie did, I guess, he didn't have the connections Maisie or Will or even Declan had, he just wanted to get to the truth so he could free Ryan. But I still just found him really irritating last night. I don't think you can have the 'cool' of respecting murderers, and also the apparent moral high ground of kicking the shit out of them. I know he kind of didn't, he was just trying to get them to confess so he could help Ryan, but still. Irritating.

With Will, I don't know - maybe he didn't care what it did to him. Or maybe he wanted to truth out once and for all, with as many people as possible, giving Natasha nowhere left to hide and no-one to still 'protect' by keeping it all a secret. He did say something later when Natasha asked him to take Will outside about how 'the lad deserved to know'. Maybe he really believed it. Or maybe he just wanted Will to come along so Natasha couldn't really refuse, or argue with him properly while Will was around. Or maybe, again, he just didn't care.

OH GOD I KNOW. She just wouldn’t let go of the idea that he’d been involved.

I guess it must be hard for her, being so convinced for so long that Nathan had done it and her mum hadn't, for her to get out of that mindset. And she didn't know how long he'd known for, I guess. But still, to KEEP INSISTING when she'd just heard things weren't like she thought they were was a little bit awful, for Nathan and kind of in general.

From which I essentially conclude that Mark was a bastard.

I was thinking more that Nathan is just incredibly insecure. He talks a good talk, and is always doing things, but he's made a lot of comments about how his mum must hate him, and how he can never do anything right for her, and recently about how Maisie must hate him, and yet he still keeps going back to them both and trying to help them, like he's either ignoring those thoughts or doesn't care. It really makes me wonder what he must think of himself, and it wouldn't suprise me if he was weird about it at this point. Although I am quite convinced Mark is a bit of a bastard anyway. There was always the thing that Nathan was closer to Natasha, and Maisie was closer to Mark. But frankly, like I've said before, how close he could ever have been to either of them, when he was lying to them for their whole lives, I find kind of doubtful. But it wouldn't suprise me if a lot of Nathan's issues with Ryan spring partly from his secret fear that his entire family will or do like him better than they like Nathan. But his behaviour doesn't exactly make that better. Oh God Nathan.

[hestia8.livejournal.com]

Yeah, it’s weird – when he said it to Nathan a while ago, it worked and it was quite funny, because we knew that he was wrong. But when he then repeated it to Natasha… IDK.

I find it weird, the thing with Will. I mean, I don’t need any help thinking Cain’s just a nasty bully who should fuck off, but this seemed unnecessary. Even if Will did deserve to know, there would be better ways of finding out.

It was a shame for Nathan, really, because he did all of this for his family, because Natasha said so, and she has been and keep manipulating them and Maisie (and others) *still* think he’s the one behind it. And don't seem to have noticed how manipulative Natasha is!

Oh yeah, that too. He does seem to spend a lot of time convinced that people must hate him so he might as well make it true? I think he probably does hate himself quite a lot for various reasons. I know what you’re saying about Mark, and that probably helped screw Maisie up as well as the Ryan thing, because they all seem to have put a lot of store in Nathan being closer to Natasha and Maisie being closer to Mark etc etc. I think he probably does think they like Ryan more than him, and although his behaviour doesn’t help, some of their behaviour leans to that as well (or rather, Maisie and Will’s – fair enough, Will’s only a kid, but Maisie did seem to have become friends with Ryan after everything, so Nathan was probably wondering why he couldn’t get away with as much…)

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He respects murders, even though he also calls them out on it, but he doesn't respect lying and messing people around, even though he does it all the time. I don't understand him. He just likes playing the big man, whenever he can, I think. I liked Charity saying that she thought terrorising Nathan had gone to his head though. As though he just couldn't get enough of it. Which is probably true.

I've decided on a term I like for what people/men mostly seem to do with Nathan, by the way: hate-flirting. I can think of no better way to describe half the things Declan says to him, and half the things Cain does to him.

Cain did say last week that he always liked an opportunity to "stick it to the Wyldes" (so to speak) - maybe he just wanted to hurt Natasha as much as he possibly could, and didn't care how Will felt about it. Who knows.

Maisie's starting to see how manipulative Natasha is, I think, with her "how dare you decide what's best for me", and everything. The problem is, at the moment she seems to think Nathan just agreed with her or thinks the same way I think, and probably wouldn't realise what it was actually like unless he told her everything that happened. Which is unlikely, at the moment. But oh God. I wish someone understood what it was like for him, given that he seems to have repressed it himself even. But I doubt anyone is going to, and probably not in the next few weeks anyway.

He does seem to spend a lot of time convinced that people must hate him so he might as well make it true?

Or he thinks that people seem to hate him whatever he does, so he may as well just do what he wants, and try to get things done and be useful, at least? That is something that seems fairly true about him and the way he behaves to me, in most of the things he does. I should try to watch some of his early episodes again really, to see if he really has become more like this since Natasha told him she killed his dad or if he was like it before. I think there were hints of it always there, to be honest.

and although his behaviour doesn’t help, some of their behaviour leans to that as well

I know. Given that Maisie still wanted Ryan around even after she nearly slept with him, especially if he had some of the same problems with Ryan's behaviour that I did, and given that Will once told him (in the heat of the moment) that he wished Ryan was his brother, not Nathan, and if he is as insecure as I'm thinking, it must play on his mind a bit. Also, from the sounds of it he's always tried to be a good son and good big brother, looking out for Maisie and Will in his own way - and then Ryan just swans in and they love him. It must be pretty weird and a bit threatening for him.

[hestia8.livejournal.com]

contd...

...Natasha told Maisie it wasn't too late, that they could all go away somewhere, tonight, and that she promised she'd make amends. Nathan said it was the only thing that made sense. Maisie said "What, and leave Ryan to rot?". To be honest, I'm not a big fan of Ryan - I don't like how he ignored Maisie's breakdown after they found out they'd nearly slept together as brother and sister, and how he just got back together with the girlfriend he'd cheated on, and I don't really like how he didn't care that Abi the prison guard nearly got into trouble over trying to help him a few weeks ago. I know he was having a difficult time of it himself both those times, but still, I'm not a fan. But he doesn't really deserve to be left in jail like that. Natasha held up her phone and said that if Maisie didn't say anything, she (Natasha) could walk out of there a free woman, or she could use the phone and have her arrested. Maisie took the phone. Nathan started crying, I think. Maisie called the police.

WHAT YOU SAID. I am not a fan of Ryan at all. And then Natasha apparently wasn’t done with the manipulation.

Natasha was in the barn again. She told Maisie "You know you're sending me to prison, don't you?". YES I THINK SHE KNOWS THAT NATASHA. Maisie possibly said something, I can't remember.

YES NATASHA BECAUSE YOU KILLED YOUR HUSBAND.

...She told him to look after Maisie and Will, I think. She asked Maisie if all her years of love and care meant nothing, then, and actually, possibly this was before, when Maisie called the police on her.

Natasha is ridiculous. And people still think Nathan is the evil one!
I am wondering how they get back from wherever, because Maisie was still furious with Nathan (and yes he did frame Ryan, but he’s been tied up, tortured, dehydrated and possibly worse), Cain is a smirking bastard, Will’s upset, and Nathan…well, a) he’s probably still scared, and b) without wanting to bring too much realism into a soap, he’ll stink by this point. And really he needs to go to a hospital and get checked out, at least.

I do want to see how Declan reacts. And how is he going to help Maisie now, given that Natasha’s confessed? Help her with Will?

I was hoping for a happy ending with Nathan, but I don’t think it will be. I think a lot depends on Maisie (and also which of the two of them is leaving first). I think she might continue treating him badly, but I hope I’m wrong about that.

[girlofprey.livejournal.com]

I am not a fan of Ryan at all.

I know Nathan has done some bad things, and they were worse than what Ryan has done. But at least he's painted as a bad person, and it's made explicit that they are bad things, and he's often punished for them onscreen. With Ryan, we're told he's a nice guy, and then he does slightly weird stuff and no-one seems too bothered by it. So it irks me more than what Nathan does. Although having said that, Ryan is supposed to be coming out of prison with a new dark side, so maybe his not caring about Abi was supposed to be part of that. Sadly, James Sutton at one point said he was really keen when the whole prison storyline was over for Nathan and Ryan to become friends again at some point, and be an evil twosome living up at Home Farm and running around the village. That probably won't happen now :(

I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW MUCH NATASHA CAN'T BELIEVE PEOPLE THINK SHE SHOULD GO TO PRISON FOR MURDERING HER HUSBAND. OH MY GOD, NATASHA. The thing is, the family is supposed to be a bit fucked up, I think - it certainly is now - but Natasha's the one kind of making it all or nothing. Either her kids don't send her to jail, or all the years she's loved them mean 'nothing'. I'll have to watch again I think to make sure that's what she actually said, but if it. Oh my God. And yes, they think Nathan is the evil one. He clearly has his issues, but Natasha was basically his main example of morality. Oh God.

Maybe the police officers helped them get back? I'm not sure, I guess Cain wouldn't have wanted to be seen there, but the police would have known Maisie was there, obviously, and she'd have to get Will back somehow. Maybe they got a lift with some police officers. With Declan - I don't know. Just help her generally, support her, offer money if she needs it, just do whatever she needs, I guess.

It's really hard to judge what will happen from what happened that night I think, because Maisie was still so convinced that Nathan was involved somehow. Things have progressed a bit tonight, but I know you probably didn't see it so I won't say anything. I can't say he doesn't entirely deserve it, or that Maisie isn't well within her rights to be completely appalled with him, but I can't see any ending that involves him losing his family not completely destroying him. They're basically all he cares about now, really. Oh God, Nathan.

[hestia8.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I don’t quite get how Ryan is supposed to be a nice guy (and when he is, he’s boring, which doesn’t have to be true – Paddy, Marlon etc). I would have loved for Nathan and Ryan to get together and start running things and being evil, but Nathan would never have gone for that. Shaaaaame.

I also wonder what’s going to happen with Ryan and Nathan; if he’ll just beat Nathan up, or if he’ll go for something longer term?

The thing with Natasha was pretty amazing by the end. Insisting Maisie make the choice – YOU MURDERED YOUR HUSBAND, FFS. Natasha probably does win the screwed up crown, even with Maisie and Nathan in the running.

...He clearly has his issues, but Natasha was basically his main example of morality.

Hahaha, YES. I blame the parents ;)

IDK, I hadn’t thought about Cain. I’ll have to see how many police cars there were at the end, I thought there was only the one. I still think Nathan should have gone to hospital (I found it odd that he was standing watching at the end), so I suppose if the police did check on them they’d have called paramedics, and then maybe Cain waited until they’d gone and took Maisie and Will back and no-one went with Nathan to the hospital? Although from what you've said about the next episode, he was home for the next morning. IDK.

I am hoping – have said this in another comment – for a Declan/Nathan scene soon. Or even a Declan/Maisie one.

I have seen half of last night’s, will watch the rest later. I know, it’s terrible, isn’t it? He’s done some horrible, horrible stuff, but he’s getting so much comeback for it, and it’s probably going to get worse.

[girlofprey.livejournal.com]

(and when he is, he’s boring, which doesn’t have to be true – Paddy, Marlon etc).

I have to admit, I'm not a massive fan of Paddy either - he's had some really weird attitudes to women he's fancied in the past, and I find the way he seems to see his relationship with Aaron (versus Chas' relationship with Aaron) a little odd sometimes as well. But he still has more lovely/funny moments than Ryan does when he's being 'nice'. And yeah, Marlon, Bob, Alan - they're all nice guys without being boring. I suppose, to be fair, he's done a lot of brooding since finding out he was Mark's son and he nearly slept with his sister. I think they've often portrayed him doing sort of 'heroic' things, like saving Will from a horse and facing off against Nathan after they found out he was Mark's son, when Nathan was acting out and doing pretty bad stuff. So he's sort of the Good Guy. But no, I don't really love him, and I don't like that he doesn't get called on the weird things he does. So I'm pretty firmly in Nathan's corner (obviously).

Hahaha, YES. I blame the parents

BUT HIS PARENTS WERE SO WEIRD. And he was so isolated and focused only on his family that you can kind of imagine they were the only examples he really paid attention to. Which Natasha probably encouraged when she wanted him to do things - above board or somewhat "underhand" - that benefited them and no-one else. Clearly he must have problems/a problem of his own, given that Maisie and Will turned out alright (ish), but I think having parents like Natasha and Mark most likely made things worse.

I think there were a few police cars, I seem to recall them sort of closing in. There must have been at least one with the uniformed police and one with the detective in charge of the case. I might check the episode again myself. I imagine all the kids got a lift home or to the hospital with the police - I can imagine Cain just skulking off more than I can him giving anyone a lift, frankly. I'm not going to assume you've seen the other episodes, just in case you haven't, but I will say that Nathan's recovery is IMPRESSIVE. And I'm not even sure he went to the hospital. And as for a Declan/Maisie or Declan/Nathan scene - eeee!!

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A drunk man on the bus on Tuesday told me that Emmerdale was brilliant, and I thought of you.

[girlofprey.livejournal.com]

I stick faithfully by it through thick and thin. Although if they end this storyline unsatisfactorily, I may decided I hate it. THE MAN ON THE BUS TOTALLY SPOKE THE TRUTH, THOUGH.