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girlofpreyI missed last night's Emmerdale because we had my youngest nephew, because my mum is working a night shift tonight and so wanted to sleep tomorrow rather than have him over as we usually do. However, because my sister is kind of a dick, I think we're going to be having him tomorrow anyway. But in any case - I caught up with it today, and watched tonight's episode.
The choice line, I think, from last night's episode was Natasha, upon her daughter Maisie - who has quite a lot of evidence at this point to suggest that her half-brother Ryan didn't kill her dad, and that her mother and brother were involved in framing him and in covering up the murder and probably in the murder itself - refusing to just ignore that evidence and say that Ryan was innocent and come back home, saying "Haven't you punished me enough?".
And this is what I mean, kind of, when I say I am not convinced that Natasha really does love Maisie and Will more than Nathan. To be honest, when they first came into it Natasha and Nathan really seemed to be the closest to each other, apart from maybe Will because he was the youngest. There was even a mention made by Mark, when Natasha was really interested in Debbie Dingle (which I totally understand), that he wished she would stop taking on charity cases and maybe try to be as interested in Maisie as she was in Debbie. Natasha also told Nathan, a day or so after she told him she'd killed Mark - quite creepily - that she couldn't go to Maisie for help because she'd always been her daddy's girl, but he (Nathan) was her "golden boy". Which was kind of inappropriate, as far as I was concerned, and kind of really awful, given the circumstances. A bit brilliant, but also a bit inappropriate and kind of really awful. But anyway. I really think in terms of 'love', she felt about the same way about Nathan that she did about Maisie and Will, and a lot of her disapproval and lack of care for his feelings came about because of how he blackmailed her. After she threatened to throw him out for not helping her cover up his father's death, after he'd already agreed not to go to the police for her and his sister and brothers' sakes. HE HAD A SLIGHTLY IRRATIONAL REACTION TO THAT, MYSTERIOUSLY.
But anyway, my point is, I think a lot of her current treatment of Nathan - apart from wanting to stay out of jail and apparently being happy to use him for those ends - is because she feels he betrayed her by doing that (while she did nothing wrong, obv), and her desire to protect Maisie and Will really is based on the fact that she considers them 'innocent', and therefore 'good'. I have a hard time believing that if they crossed her like Nathan crossed her - although I know they're not like Nathan, but still, if they moved against her, or whatever - that she wouldn't start seeing them in the same terms pretty quickly. As evidenced, I think, by what she said to Maisie last night - she seems to be seeing everything in terms of how they're treating her, without her acting like she's done anything wrong. Which suggests that yes, if she really feels like that she's kind of a psychopath, or if, as Amanda Donohoe suggests, she's just in denial about being a murderer or whatever, she really is even more messed up and deluded than Nathan or Maisie put together. I'm not sure it matters either way really - she's still doing the same things, and doing them to her own children, and even that's apparently not enough to snap her out of her denial, if that's what's happening. So whatever. But we shall see how things progress.
Tonight's choice line - to Nathan, regarding the trial and everything, "What's wrong with you? Don't you feel any guilt at all?". Fuck off, Natasha. If you feel so guilty, go confess. Feeling guilty isn't actually going to help Ryan, if you're still framing him, is it? As least Nathan has the decency to be CLEARLY MAD about the whole thing.
Meanwhile, I have also been watching Hollyoaks. Where the Brendan/Ste plotline is coming along pretty consistently. Sadly, it's turned out to be even more abusive from the start than I thought it would be, with Brendan manipulating Ste into liking him (sort of), manipulating him into ruining a relationship he had with a girl he liked, manipulating him into being desperate for his (Brendan's) attention, and tonight manipulating him into kissing him. Which is going to lead up to tomorrow night's manipulating him to let Brendan kiss him, then on Friday (I think) manipulating him into not telling anyone when Brendan punches him and cracks his ribs. So. Not a beautiful plotline, but I think they're doing it quite well (for Hollyoaks) all the same. And Brendan is kind of really brilliant at manipulation, while also looking like he either can't believe Ste is so stupid, like he genuinely finds Ste quite sweet, or like he wants to push him up against a wall and eat him. ALL OF WHICH IS QUITE AWESOME. So I'm really enjoying it. At the moment.
Also, after watching last night's Hollyoaks episode today, I found out about Mitzee. I had gathered from Welovehollyoaks.com, which I quite love and is helping me get through any problems I do have with watching Hollyoaks again quite happily (aside from the bizarre sponsored posts, of course), that she might be quite awesome. BUT DUDES, I HAD NO IDEA. She's amazing. Also, I quite love Jacqui from Hollyoaks, apparently. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING. I HAVE SOME NEW FAVOURITE FEMALE CHARACTERS AND THEY ARE FROM HOLLYOAKS. HELP.
Also, on Saturday I went to see Despicable Me. I quite enjoyed it, although I do really like films about supervillains and supervillain family politics and stuff, and I do quite like animated films it turns out. I did think that they moved from Gru not caring if the girls died to sort of tolerating them to loving them utterly a bit quickly, without much explanation why - I really thought during the scene where the girls give him the piggy bank he would sort of scorn them, because he didn't seem to care enough at that point, but that sort of became a turning point when I wasn't expecting it to. But I did really enjoy pretty much everything leading up to that and after it. I loved Gru, and his mother, and I really loved the girls, and especially his relationship with Margo. I just felt it all worked out a bit 'pat', and was a little unsatisfying because of it. But I've since found out that it is apparently a really little-known studio, and Universal's first animated film, so maybe they wanted to play it safe. I think it might work best as the first part of a series, where they can really develop the relationships later on, and personally I'd quite like to see that. But you can't really expect that, especially in this day and age of film studios playing it safe, so we shall see. Maybe. Apart from that, the main thing I noticed was the distinct lack of any black or non-white characters, aside I think from the coffee girl near the beginning. And that I was really impressed by the voice work - I noticed that Will Arnett and Russell Brand were in it during the credits in the titles, and didn't guess who they were until the end. Which I thought was pretty good work.
ETA: I should probably also say that the film does not accurately portray how the adoption process works, as far as I'm aware. Hopefully. Also, there's possibly a running theme that the female head of the orphanage is kind of evil, and that Gru's mother is not too great at being a mother. But it's not a massive theme, and there's a dad in there being not too great as well and another guy being not too brilliant with the kids, so if you are okay with that it shouldn't spoil things too much for you.
But what I really wanted to say was that while I was sitting waiting for the film to start, during the adverts, that new advert for Reeboks came on - the one with a lot of close-ups of women's bums? Often barely covered ladies bums? Which I am guessing is to appeal to the mums in the audience - because from the advert I can only assume they are just for women - but for a U-rated film I am not sure that is appropriate, when you know there will probably be a lot of kids watching. "Look, kids, ladies' bottoms! They are important and deserve a lot of attention! But only 'nice' ladies' bottoms, that is". Hmm.
In other news, I got a letter from the mental health services I signed up with for counselling for my OCD symptoms, asking me to come along to a Group Therapy session. Dude. I don't even really like telling one counsellor about my problems at the moment, never mind a group of people I don't know, even if they do have similar problems. But they sent a nice little statistic in the letter about how group sessions are apparently 50% more effective than one-on-one counselling. So it sounds like it's worth a go. And, because they are only OFFERING me an appointment, I have to call up and confirm and say that I WANT to come, instead of just turning up and being sullen and sort of hating them. Except that that didn't so much happen, because I got the letter last week and I didn't call them, so they finally called me today to ask if I wanted to come, and I told them yes I did. So yeah, I'm giving it a go. That's next week.
In other other news, I was out in town today with my mum, and she asked me if I ever wanted a 'life partner', and talked about all the people she works with or knows who are gay and have partners, and that there must be somewhere near to us where you can meet other gay people. I told her that basically I am not all that eager to get another person massively involved in my life, although I do see the appeal - which is true, I'm not against the idea, but it's not really something I am actively interested in, to be honest. But at least she sort of remembered that I am kind of gay. And Alice is great.
Also, I watched a documentary about the South Pacific Ocean today (woo, documentary!), and learned that Moby Dick is apparently based on a true story. It makes finding out about the Moby Dick game from![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
cakesy's journal, and spending quite a lot of the last few days being all "Is Moby Dick going to have to capsize a bitch?" (it turned out she almost always was), just slightly more pleasant. Hurrah!
The choice line, I think, from last night's episode was Natasha, upon her daughter Maisie - who has quite a lot of evidence at this point to suggest that her half-brother Ryan didn't kill her dad, and that her mother and brother were involved in framing him and in covering up the murder and probably in the murder itself - refusing to just ignore that evidence and say that Ryan was innocent and come back home, saying "Haven't you punished me enough?".
And this is what I mean, kind of, when I say I am not convinced that Natasha really does love Maisie and Will more than Nathan. To be honest, when they first came into it Natasha and Nathan really seemed to be the closest to each other, apart from maybe Will because he was the youngest. There was even a mention made by Mark, when Natasha was really interested in Debbie Dingle (which I totally understand), that he wished she would stop taking on charity cases and maybe try to be as interested in Maisie as she was in Debbie. Natasha also told Nathan, a day or so after she told him she'd killed Mark - quite creepily - that she couldn't go to Maisie for help because she'd always been her daddy's girl, but he (Nathan) was her "golden boy". Which was kind of inappropriate, as far as I was concerned, and kind of really awful, given the circumstances. A bit brilliant, but also a bit inappropriate and kind of really awful. But anyway. I really think in terms of 'love', she felt about the same way about Nathan that she did about Maisie and Will, and a lot of her disapproval and lack of care for his feelings came about because of how he blackmailed her. After she threatened to throw him out for not helping her cover up his father's death, after he'd already agreed not to go to the police for her and his sister and brothers' sakes. HE HAD A SLIGHTLY IRRATIONAL REACTION TO THAT, MYSTERIOUSLY.
But anyway, my point is, I think a lot of her current treatment of Nathan - apart from wanting to stay out of jail and apparently being happy to use him for those ends - is because she feels he betrayed her by doing that (while she did nothing wrong, obv), and her desire to protect Maisie and Will really is based on the fact that she considers them 'innocent', and therefore 'good'. I have a hard time believing that if they crossed her like Nathan crossed her - although I know they're not like Nathan, but still, if they moved against her, or whatever - that she wouldn't start seeing them in the same terms pretty quickly. As evidenced, I think, by what she said to Maisie last night - she seems to be seeing everything in terms of how they're treating her, without her acting like she's done anything wrong. Which suggests that yes, if she really feels like that she's kind of a psychopath, or if, as Amanda Donohoe suggests, she's just in denial about being a murderer or whatever, she really is even more messed up and deluded than Nathan or Maisie put together. I'm not sure it matters either way really - she's still doing the same things, and doing them to her own children, and even that's apparently not enough to snap her out of her denial, if that's what's happening. So whatever. But we shall see how things progress.
Tonight's choice line - to Nathan, regarding the trial and everything, "What's wrong with you? Don't you feel any guilt at all?". Fuck off, Natasha. If you feel so guilty, go confess. Feeling guilty isn't actually going to help Ryan, if you're still framing him, is it? As least Nathan has the decency to be CLEARLY MAD about the whole thing.
Meanwhile, I have also been watching Hollyoaks. Where the Brendan/Ste plotline is coming along pretty consistently. Sadly, it's turned out to be even more abusive from the start than I thought it would be, with Brendan manipulating Ste into liking him (sort of), manipulating him into ruining a relationship he had with a girl he liked, manipulating him into being desperate for his (Brendan's) attention, and tonight manipulating him into kissing him. Which is going to lead up to tomorrow night's manipulating him to let Brendan kiss him, then on Friday (I think) manipulating him into not telling anyone when Brendan punches him and cracks his ribs. So. Not a beautiful plotline, but I think they're doing it quite well (for Hollyoaks) all the same. And Brendan is kind of really brilliant at manipulation, while also looking like he either can't believe Ste is so stupid, like he genuinely finds Ste quite sweet, or like he wants to push him up against a wall and eat him. ALL OF WHICH IS QUITE AWESOME. So I'm really enjoying it. At the moment.
Also, after watching last night's Hollyoaks episode today, I found out about Mitzee. I had gathered from Welovehollyoaks.com, which I quite love and is helping me get through any problems I do have with watching Hollyoaks again quite happily (aside from the bizarre sponsored posts, of course), that she might be quite awesome. BUT DUDES, I HAD NO IDEA. She's amazing. Also, I quite love Jacqui from Hollyoaks, apparently. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING. I HAVE SOME NEW FAVOURITE FEMALE CHARACTERS AND THEY ARE FROM HOLLYOAKS. HELP.
Also, on Saturday I went to see Despicable Me. I quite enjoyed it, although I do really like films about supervillains and supervillain family politics and stuff, and I do quite like animated films it turns out. I did think that they moved from Gru not caring if the girls died to sort of tolerating them to loving them utterly a bit quickly, without much explanation why - I really thought during the scene where the girls give him the piggy bank he would sort of scorn them, because he didn't seem to care enough at that point, but that sort of became a turning point when I wasn't expecting it to. But I did really enjoy pretty much everything leading up to that and after it. I loved Gru, and his mother, and I really loved the girls, and especially his relationship with Margo. I just felt it all worked out a bit 'pat', and was a little unsatisfying because of it. But I've since found out that it is apparently a really little-known studio, and Universal's first animated film, so maybe they wanted to play it safe. I think it might work best as the first part of a series, where they can really develop the relationships later on, and personally I'd quite like to see that. But you can't really expect that, especially in this day and age of film studios playing it safe, so we shall see. Maybe. Apart from that, the main thing I noticed was the distinct lack of any black or non-white characters, aside I think from the coffee girl near the beginning. And that I was really impressed by the voice work - I noticed that Will Arnett and Russell Brand were in it during the credits in the titles, and didn't guess who they were until the end. Which I thought was pretty good work.
ETA: I should probably also say that the film does not accurately portray how the adoption process works, as far as I'm aware. Hopefully. Also, there's possibly a running theme that the female head of the orphanage is kind of evil, and that Gru's mother is not too great at being a mother. But it's not a massive theme, and there's a dad in there being not too great as well and another guy being not too brilliant with the kids, so if you are okay with that it shouldn't spoil things too much for you.
But what I really wanted to say was that while I was sitting waiting for the film to start, during the adverts, that new advert for Reeboks came on - the one with a lot of close-ups of women's bums? Often barely covered ladies bums? Which I am guessing is to appeal to the mums in the audience - because from the advert I can only assume they are just for women - but for a U-rated film I am not sure that is appropriate, when you know there will probably be a lot of kids watching. "Look, kids, ladies' bottoms! They are important and deserve a lot of attention! But only 'nice' ladies' bottoms, that is". Hmm.
In other news, I got a letter from the mental health services I signed up with for counselling for my OCD symptoms, asking me to come along to a Group Therapy session. Dude. I don't even really like telling one counsellor about my problems at the moment, never mind a group of people I don't know, even if they do have similar problems. But they sent a nice little statistic in the letter about how group sessions are apparently 50% more effective than one-on-one counselling. So it sounds like it's worth a go. And, because they are only OFFERING me an appointment, I have to call up and confirm and say that I WANT to come, instead of just turning up and being sullen and sort of hating them. Except that that didn't so much happen, because I got the letter last week and I didn't call them, so they finally called me today to ask if I wanted to come, and I told them yes I did. So yeah, I'm giving it a go. That's next week.
In other other news, I was out in town today with my mum, and she asked me if I ever wanted a 'life partner', and talked about all the people she works with or knows who are gay and have partners, and that there must be somewhere near to us where you can meet other gay people. I told her that basically I am not all that eager to get another person massively involved in my life, although I do see the appeal - which is true, I'm not against the idea, but it's not really something I am actively interested in, to be honest. But at least she sort of remembered that I am kind of gay. And Alice is great.
Also, I watched a documentary about the South Pacific Ocean today (woo, documentary!), and learned that Moby Dick is apparently based on a true story. It makes finding out about the Moby Dick game from
cakesy's journal, and spending quite a lot of the last few days being all "Is Moby Dick going to have to capsize a bitch?" (it turned out she almost always was), just slightly more pleasant. Hurrah!
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Date: 2010-10-20 09:55 pm (UTC)I CAN'T EXPLAIN HOW NOSTALGIC THAT MADE ME.
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Date: 2010-10-20 10:27 pm (UTC)I quite want to see Despicable Me! Mostly because I vaguely have the idea that Kelly from the Office's voice is in it. AND THAT IS THE ONLY REASON I EVER WANT TO SEE ANYTHING. Also I like that the children in it are little girls.
Well done your mother for remembering that you're quite gay! I am sorry she has decided to use this newfound knowledge to try and make you have a life partner.
I LOVE THE MOBY DICK GAME. I love Moby Dick's GLEEFUL EXPRESSION when sailors die.
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Date: 2010-10-20 11:46 pm (UTC)It turns out her voice totally is! Another one I didn't recognise. But I have to warn you, she's not in it for very long. It's lovely that the children are little girls, and there's three of them so they get to have different personalities, and they're all quite lovely, and it is quite beautiful, oh. On an objective note, I really did enjoy Despicable Me, it wasn't the best film I've ever seen, but I really liked it, so you might enjoy it too.
She's made kind of a leap from not understanding what I meant when I reminded her she had a sort of gay daughter to being all "Dude, where are all the gay bars?". But it is nice she's remembered! Even if she is apparently trying to get me married off. I think I made my attitude to life partners in general quite clear, though.
IT IS BRILLIANT. I LOVE SMASHING SHIPS. I LOVE HOW EASY IT IS WHEN YOU JUST LEARN TO TURN ROUND.