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girlofpreyThe night of the day I posted about my house having internet problems, and me having to use my dad's computer, he asked me to bring my laptop down to his room, and then put a thing in the USB socket and a disc in the computer to set it up, and now I can totally pick up N-something on my laptop and have the internet in my room again! However, my dad had warned me earlier in the week about us between us having almost completely used up our internet download limit for this month, possibly because of me watching old episodes of Hollyoaks off 4od, possibly because of a bunch of updates he'd been downloading. And I was trying to be careful, I really was, but last night I without really thinking about it clicked onto a few video links and things, and accidentally used the last of it up. So we didn't have the internet for all of today, and I only just got it back an hour or so ago. Our internet problems continue, basically. But they should be a bit better from now on.
In other news, I wish I didn't love so many characters that end up sexually assaulting women. I wish it so much. Although probably nothing will ever be as bad as when I loved Sam from Hollyoaks, AND THEN THAT WENT VERY WRONG. On a current note - I've basically been having problems with Coronation Street and been avoiding watching it lately because I heard a while ago - just about after all the murder trial stuff with Gail finished, I guess - that they were possibly going to do a rape storyline involving David Platt attacking Tina, his ex-girlfriend, in revenge for her still not getting back together with him and going out with his friend Graeme instead. And while it seemed like something that went a bit too far for David, it also seemed like something they might do if they wanted him to be a bit darker now that he was a proper adult. Or that they could do it, like if he did something while she was drunk, and he didn't really think of it as rape or something. But basically, I just found it really hard to watch thinking that that was something that might happen later on. I should have known better, really, given that even the 'insider' who was telling the newspaper about the story said that the producer thought that David, Tina and Graeme were the 'future' of the show, and you can't really have someone rape someone and then really stick around as an even vaguely sympathetic character.
But anyway, what they were talking about basically happened tonight I think, and what it was was that David walked Tina back to her and Graeme's flat, they got talking about the old times when they were together, she was obviously trying to change subjects somehow, but then he said something that made her smile, leaned in to kiss her, she pushed him away and got up. He claimed she'd been flirting with him and had then come over all 'Victorian virgin' on him, she said she hadn't been and pushed him to go out of the door, he pushed her back a bit, she told him to get off her, he kind of laughingly said no, then pushed her down on the couch, holding her wrists over her head, she told him to get off again - obviously not happy about what he was doing, but not sounding really terrified or anything - and he laughed again and said no, then insisted that he loved her. And she said something like "Right. So are you going to rape me now, then?". And he seemed to realise what he was doing and what positions they were in, and he jumped up, and backed up to the wall, then turned and ran out of the door. And she stayed laid down on the couch, with her hand to her mouth, shaking a bit. Which was all for from ideal, obviously, but it wasn't a rape, at least, and it really did seem to be mostly David being David, and not really realising the effect of what he was doing. Which is again, not great, but dealable with.
The thing is, I think, that it's basically the lead-in to another storyline. I'm not sure how I feel about that either, having an assault/sexual assault as basically a plot device for another storyline, but that's what they're doing apparently. Basically, Tina is not going to tell Graeme about what happened because she doesn't want to ruin the boys' friendship and she feels uncomfortable about it as well I guess, but then she finally does tell him, and he and David have a big, big fight about it, then immediately afterwards David gets in his grandmother's car and runs down Graeme, putting him in hospital, apparently nearly killing him. David gets arrested and charged with attempted murder, but he ends up getting a diagnosis of epilepsy, with the story being that he apparently blacked out in the car and ran over Graeme by accident, I assume. My soap mags are vaguely talking about it, and saying that a piece of evidence will come to light but it could be one of David's cons, but I don't see how you could get a diagnosis of epilepsy and have that be a con. Unless he gets diagnosed with epilepsy, but hadn't actually blacked out in the car, it was just a massive coincidence that he had this diagnosis at the same time and claimed he'd blacked out, but actually did it on purpose. I don't know, I'll have to see how it all plays out.
I've also been finding it a bit difficult and kind of sad to watch Coronation Street for a few months too because someone on a soap forum claimed that they were planning to kill Gary off later in the year. And I like Gary, and he is David's clear true love, so I didn't really want that to happen. And I wouldn't have worried about it, but he's in the army and his parents are looking to adopt another child, to try to give them a good home now that their Gary's left home pretty much permanently, and it all seemed a bit set up for an army tragedy. But apparently now, Gary's friend Quinny who we've seen him with a bit in the last few months, is going to die in action, and Gary will have to come home and deal with it and tell Quinny's parents what happened, like he and Quinny promised each other they would if either of them died, and someone speaking in a soap mag said that it was going to scar Gary and be something he had to deal with for the rest of his life. Which sounds long-term, happily. So fingers crossed that's possibly what the person who said Gary was going to die later on was talking about, if they were talking about anything definite at all, and it won't happen to Gary too. Hopefully.
It's weird with a lot of the characters I tend to love - a lot of them I love because they are basically jerks, who don't really cope with other people well, and if they are male don't always cope with women/relationships well. Which sadly seems to lead into some level of sexual assault/really terrible behaviour quite easily, when plots call for it. I'm not too worried about my apparent love of them, because I know from Sam from Hollyoaks that when things get REALLY bad I don't just keep loving them and forgiving what they've done because I liked the character. And there are plenty of characters I love that have never done any kind of sexual assault or anything weird to female characters. It's just that when ANOTHER ONE goes and does something, it gets slightly more awful. OH GOD DUDES, STOP DOING IT.
Anyway. In other news Nathan in Emmerdale has been acting a bit like a bizarre toff lately, which I assume is a result of him not really connecting with his emotions anymore, but tonight was kind of amazing. They were doing the reading of his dad Mark's will, and he had already found out his mum and the rest of them would be doing pretty well out of it, while his dad's first wife and her son wouldn't really get very much at all. So he was trying to convince him mum that everything would be fine now, it was basically over, and she was all 'dude, your brother is still totally upset that his dad's dead', and he just put his arm around her and said that she had to consider how things could have turned out, and said 'this is better'. And sounded basically the most like someone who was trying and almost succeeding at convincing himself this was 'better' that you could imagine. Then they had the will reading, and everything turned out as Nathan and Natasha had been expecting, but Declan, Natasha's ex-boyfriend had come along, supposedly to support the Natasha, but actually because he was now trying to help Mark's other wife, Faye. And they listened to the will reading, but then revealed that they were working together and were going to contest it, and Natasha asked Nathan to leave so they could all discuss things, and he refused at first, but she insisted and he finally did go. And then she asked Declan and Faye what they wanted, and they said they didn't care about the money, they just wanted Natasha to give up Nathan to the police for murdering his dad, and get Faye's son Ryan freed. And Natasha refused of course, but later on she was packing to go away on some trip she had arranged before the will reading, with her youngest son Will. And Nathan turned up and asked her if she was still going away, and she was like yes, obviously, and then he asked what had happened with Declan and Faye. And she lied and said that they had just asked for money, that was all. And I'm not sure why - either, I guess, because she didn't want him to be upset or try and get them to back off himself, or because she didn't want him to suspect that she might turn on him and agree to it for the money and for Maisie and Will's futures. Or because she didn't want him to know that their plan to frame Ryan was jeopardising Maisie and Will's futures, and possibly decide to turn on her for their sakes. I don't know. But she lied to him, and then she asked him if he get her bags, and he was like, yeah, sure, just really absently, like yeah, of course he'd get his mother's bags.
Then later on he went round to Faye's, and was all 'Your plan totally isn't going to work, you know', and she basically guessed that Natasha hadn't told him what they'd asked for in return for not contesting the will. And he tried to pretend she had, or still believe that she had, and was basically just a bit wild-eyed, and they needled each other about Ryan a bit, and he was just acting quite shaken, and then left. And I just. If the people who seem most concerned about getting Ryan free and finding out who actually killed Mark weren't so convinced it was Nathan, they would probably notice that he really does follow his mother's lead more often than she follows his, and that he really probably isn't emotionally stable enough to have covered up a murder for this long. And, frankly, if they even considered that it might be Natasha who had killed Mark and that it was Nathan covering for her, and needled him the way they have been needling her, there's a chance he might cave and break down so much more easily than she would. Just a few words about his father, and how much he must have loved his father, and whether it was right to hide how he really died from the rest of his family might have Nathan cracking slightly. Or that's what I think, at least. I'm probably a bit biased. Having said that though, in some ways I totally understand everyone being so convinced it was Nathan, because he is the more outwardly awful and seemingly unstable/violent of the two. And it is kind of terrifying really, as a viewer, just how easily Natasha manages to act like everything's totally fine and she has no guilty secrets at all. It probably would be hard to believe actual murder of her. But it's just pretty AWFUL FOR NATHAN how many people believe he killed his dad, oh god.
As for Declan though, I don't really know what he is thinking. There was an interview the actor who plays him did a few months ago, when Declan started suspecting there was more to Mark's murder than met the eye, and that Nathan might have done it, and they asked him if Declan had ever considered that it might be Natasha, not Nathan, who'd done it. And he said that Declan was pretty smart and it had probably totally crossed his mind that Natasha might have done it, but that he was so in love with her he couldn't really believe it of her. And I suppose that more things have happened since then that have convinced him that it was Nathan, not Natasha, but now he's broken up with Natasha and is claiming that he's not in love with her anymore, but he's still pretty convinced it was Nathan that killed Mark. I don't even know, maybe he is still in love with her, and is thinking that if he can get Nathan caught for the murder, he and Natasha can still be together. But at the moment it's just seeming like a personal thing he has with Nathan. I think Faye asked him tonight what he wanted out of their partnership/them working together, and he said he just wanted to see Nathan get sent down. That was all. Which is kind of nice, on a slashy level, but also just kind of terrible, oh god.
Basically, I know that the Wylde storyline is coming to a definite end in the next few months. The actress who plays Maisie, Nathan's sister, announced she was leaving a few months ago, seemingly permanently, because she wanted to live with her new husband down in London not having to keep travelling up to Leeds, and she said she never wanted to stay in the/a soap for very long anyway. Then not long after, I think, the actress who plays Natasha, Nathan's mum, basically confirmed that she wouldn't be renewing her contract when it ran out. The actor who plays Nathan said that he was planning to stick around, but then a week or so after that confirmed that he'd be leaving as well, at around the same time his sister and mother did, just because he was excited about other projects. Then only a few days or a week after that, it was announced that the actor who plays Nathan's younger brother Will would be leaving, which was kind of expected really, since basically all the rest of his family was going. Apparently the writers of Emmerdale were very keen for Nathan to stay, and have totally left the door open for the actor to come back if he ever wants to. But I assume that the actress who plays Maisie and the actress who plays Natasha will be getting more permanent exits, since they don't seem to plan or want to come back. According to Lyndon Ogbourne, the actress who plays Natasha is leaving in November, and the court date for Ryan, Nathan's half-brother who has been falsely accused of the murder of Nathan's dad, is set for October 25th, so I assume that it will be around then that the truth comes out and the Wyldes all leave, basically.
Based on the fact that they writers are meant to be leaving the door open for Nathan, while like I say I think the actress playing Natasha will be having a more permanent exit, I am guessing that Natasha is the one who finally gets sent down for the crime, since someone will have to for Ryan to be freed, while Nathan just leaves, I guess, after it all comes out. Maisie I'm not so sure about - again I'm expecting sort of a permanent exit for her, and she's had a nervous breakdown in the past, and it was claimed when her exit was announced that she'd be going down a 'darker and darker path' up until she left. When I first read it, I thought she might kill herself, but now she's become more involved in investigation into who really killed her dad at this stage, I'm not so sure. She might well just leave, like I'm guessing Nathan does.
However - the storylines leading up to the truth coming out and their exits looks like it won't be a terribly happy one. Especially for Nathan. Ages ago Lyndon Ogbourne was talking about it, and said things were going to get much darker and more twisted before the storyline ended, and said that Emmerdale might be showing some of the darkest and most corrupt stuff so far seen on a soap, and in addition said something about ITV possibly putting warnings on before the episodes in question. At the time I assumed - as we were probably meant to - that this would be something/stuff that Nathan did. But then as things got worse for him, and more and more people were convinced that he was the one who murdered his father - especially his sister, with her history of mental health problems, and apparent hatred of Nathan for what she thought he'd done, and her telling him 'maybe [he] should be scared' before she left because she couldn't cope with staying in their house when she thought he'd murdered their dad - I started to think it could actually be stuff people did to Nathan instead.
And recent soap magazine articles seem to confirm it. Last week's/fornight's Soaplife (yes, I know) had a little article about the 'scary' and 'twisted' stuff coming up in the Wylde storyline, which ended with "Just who will give Nathan what many think he deserves is part of the big secret but we can reveal you won't have long to wait...". Which sounds pretty definite. And then this week's Soaplife, there's an article in the back about what will be in next fortnight's issue, entitled "Natasha confesses?", and says "The Mark Wyle murder case takes a dramatic twist next fortnight when Nathan's life is on the the line. But who knows what? Who's doing the threatening? And will Natasha save him? So far she's been happy to let innocent Ryan take the rap for her crime and even for her own daughter to believe her brother is a murdered. Will she finally get a conscience and tell the truth?" My hope is that the answer to that question is YES, when Nathan's life is apparently in danger. But it's kind of hard to tell with Natasha a lot of the time. And then the pages in this week's All About Soap where they say what will happen in every episode for the next two weeks say that Maisie apparently comes back on the 13th October, "hell-bent on revenge...", on 14th October that "Maisie's tormenting pushes Nathan over the edge", and on 15th October "Maisie recruits Cain to her cause".
None of which bodes well for Nathan. Another magazine says that Nathan is kidnapped around the time of the court case. My guess? Maisie comes back, joins forces with Cain and they kidnap him and torture him, basically, trying to get him to confess. Or at least give him a proper beating. Or alternatively, Cain or Maisie just contacts Natasha and threatens to kill Nathan if she doesn't say it was him who killed Mark/tell the 'truth' during Ryan's court case. But based on what they've said about how the episodes will contain some really dark, corrupt stuff, I would guess at torture. But that could just be me being melodramatic, possibly. We will see how it turns out I guess - like I say, exactly who will do or say what and Natasha's reaction to it all I really cannot guess. But it doesn't sound like it turns out well for Nathan. Although apparently he won't die. But still. NATHAN. OH GOD.
So. That is my Emmerdale and Coronation Street news, basically.
In other news, I wish I didn't love so many characters that end up sexually assaulting women. I wish it so much. Although probably nothing will ever be as bad as when I loved Sam from Hollyoaks, AND THEN THAT WENT VERY WRONG. On a current note - I've basically been having problems with Coronation Street and been avoiding watching it lately because I heard a while ago - just about after all the murder trial stuff with Gail finished, I guess - that they were possibly going to do a rape storyline involving David Platt attacking Tina, his ex-girlfriend, in revenge for her still not getting back together with him and going out with his friend Graeme instead. And while it seemed like something that went a bit too far for David, it also seemed like something they might do if they wanted him to be a bit darker now that he was a proper adult. Or that they could do it, like if he did something while she was drunk, and he didn't really think of it as rape or something. But basically, I just found it really hard to watch thinking that that was something that might happen later on. I should have known better, really, given that even the 'insider' who was telling the newspaper about the story said that the producer thought that David, Tina and Graeme were the 'future' of the show, and you can't really have someone rape someone and then really stick around as an even vaguely sympathetic character.
But anyway, what they were talking about basically happened tonight I think, and what it was was that David walked Tina back to her and Graeme's flat, they got talking about the old times when they were together, she was obviously trying to change subjects somehow, but then he said something that made her smile, leaned in to kiss her, she pushed him away and got up. He claimed she'd been flirting with him and had then come over all 'Victorian virgin' on him, she said she hadn't been and pushed him to go out of the door, he pushed her back a bit, she told him to get off her, he kind of laughingly said no, then pushed her down on the couch, holding her wrists over her head, she told him to get off again - obviously not happy about what he was doing, but not sounding really terrified or anything - and he laughed again and said no, then insisted that he loved her. And she said something like "Right. So are you going to rape me now, then?". And he seemed to realise what he was doing and what positions they were in, and he jumped up, and backed up to the wall, then turned and ran out of the door. And she stayed laid down on the couch, with her hand to her mouth, shaking a bit. Which was all for from ideal, obviously, but it wasn't a rape, at least, and it really did seem to be mostly David being David, and not really realising the effect of what he was doing. Which is again, not great, but dealable with.
The thing is, I think, that it's basically the lead-in to another storyline. I'm not sure how I feel about that either, having an assault/sexual assault as basically a plot device for another storyline, but that's what they're doing apparently. Basically, Tina is not going to tell Graeme about what happened because she doesn't want to ruin the boys' friendship and she feels uncomfortable about it as well I guess, but then she finally does tell him, and he and David have a big, big fight about it, then immediately afterwards David gets in his grandmother's car and runs down Graeme, putting him in hospital, apparently nearly killing him. David gets arrested and charged with attempted murder, but he ends up getting a diagnosis of epilepsy, with the story being that he apparently blacked out in the car and ran over Graeme by accident, I assume. My soap mags are vaguely talking about it, and saying that a piece of evidence will come to light but it could be one of David's cons, but I don't see how you could get a diagnosis of epilepsy and have that be a con. Unless he gets diagnosed with epilepsy, but hadn't actually blacked out in the car, it was just a massive coincidence that he had this diagnosis at the same time and claimed he'd blacked out, but actually did it on purpose. I don't know, I'll have to see how it all plays out.
I've also been finding it a bit difficult and kind of sad to watch Coronation Street for a few months too because someone on a soap forum claimed that they were planning to kill Gary off later in the year. And I like Gary, and he is David's clear true love, so I didn't really want that to happen. And I wouldn't have worried about it, but he's in the army and his parents are looking to adopt another child, to try to give them a good home now that their Gary's left home pretty much permanently, and it all seemed a bit set up for an army tragedy. But apparently now, Gary's friend Quinny who we've seen him with a bit in the last few months, is going to die in action, and Gary will have to come home and deal with it and tell Quinny's parents what happened, like he and Quinny promised each other they would if either of them died, and someone speaking in a soap mag said that it was going to scar Gary and be something he had to deal with for the rest of his life. Which sounds long-term, happily. So fingers crossed that's possibly what the person who said Gary was going to die later on was talking about, if they were talking about anything definite at all, and it won't happen to Gary too. Hopefully.
It's weird with a lot of the characters I tend to love - a lot of them I love because they are basically jerks, who don't really cope with other people well, and if they are male don't always cope with women/relationships well. Which sadly seems to lead into some level of sexual assault/really terrible behaviour quite easily, when plots call for it. I'm not too worried about my apparent love of them, because I know from Sam from Hollyoaks that when things get REALLY bad I don't just keep loving them and forgiving what they've done because I liked the character. And there are plenty of characters I love that have never done any kind of sexual assault or anything weird to female characters. It's just that when ANOTHER ONE goes and does something, it gets slightly more awful. OH GOD DUDES, STOP DOING IT.
Anyway. In other news Nathan in Emmerdale has been acting a bit like a bizarre toff lately, which I assume is a result of him not really connecting with his emotions anymore, but tonight was kind of amazing. They were doing the reading of his dad Mark's will, and he had already found out his mum and the rest of them would be doing pretty well out of it, while his dad's first wife and her son wouldn't really get very much at all. So he was trying to convince him mum that everything would be fine now, it was basically over, and she was all 'dude, your brother is still totally upset that his dad's dead', and he just put his arm around her and said that she had to consider how things could have turned out, and said 'this is better'. And sounded basically the most like someone who was trying and almost succeeding at convincing himself this was 'better' that you could imagine. Then they had the will reading, and everything turned out as Nathan and Natasha had been expecting, but Declan, Natasha's ex-boyfriend had come along, supposedly to support the Natasha, but actually because he was now trying to help Mark's other wife, Faye. And they listened to the will reading, but then revealed that they were working together and were going to contest it, and Natasha asked Nathan to leave so they could all discuss things, and he refused at first, but she insisted and he finally did go. And then she asked Declan and Faye what they wanted, and they said they didn't care about the money, they just wanted Natasha to give up Nathan to the police for murdering his dad, and get Faye's son Ryan freed. And Natasha refused of course, but later on she was packing to go away on some trip she had arranged before the will reading, with her youngest son Will. And Nathan turned up and asked her if she was still going away, and she was like yes, obviously, and then he asked what had happened with Declan and Faye. And she lied and said that they had just asked for money, that was all. And I'm not sure why - either, I guess, because she didn't want him to be upset or try and get them to back off himself, or because she didn't want him to suspect that she might turn on him and agree to it for the money and for Maisie and Will's futures. Or because she didn't want him to know that their plan to frame Ryan was jeopardising Maisie and Will's futures, and possibly decide to turn on her for their sakes. I don't know. But she lied to him, and then she asked him if he get her bags, and he was like, yeah, sure, just really absently, like yeah, of course he'd get his mother's bags.
Then later on he went round to Faye's, and was all 'Your plan totally isn't going to work, you know', and she basically guessed that Natasha hadn't told him what they'd asked for in return for not contesting the will. And he tried to pretend she had, or still believe that she had, and was basically just a bit wild-eyed, and they needled each other about Ryan a bit, and he was just acting quite shaken, and then left. And I just. If the people who seem most concerned about getting Ryan free and finding out who actually killed Mark weren't so convinced it was Nathan, they would probably notice that he really does follow his mother's lead more often than she follows his, and that he really probably isn't emotionally stable enough to have covered up a murder for this long. And, frankly, if they even considered that it might be Natasha who had killed Mark and that it was Nathan covering for her, and needled him the way they have been needling her, there's a chance he might cave and break down so much more easily than she would. Just a few words about his father, and how much he must have loved his father, and whether it was right to hide how he really died from the rest of his family might have Nathan cracking slightly. Or that's what I think, at least. I'm probably a bit biased. Having said that though, in some ways I totally understand everyone being so convinced it was Nathan, because he is the more outwardly awful and seemingly unstable/violent of the two. And it is kind of terrifying really, as a viewer, just how easily Natasha manages to act like everything's totally fine and she has no guilty secrets at all. It probably would be hard to believe actual murder of her. But it's just pretty AWFUL FOR NATHAN how many people believe he killed his dad, oh god.
As for Declan though, I don't really know what he is thinking. There was an interview the actor who plays him did a few months ago, when Declan started suspecting there was more to Mark's murder than met the eye, and that Nathan might have done it, and they asked him if Declan had ever considered that it might be Natasha, not Nathan, who'd done it. And he said that Declan was pretty smart and it had probably totally crossed his mind that Natasha might have done it, but that he was so in love with her he couldn't really believe it of her. And I suppose that more things have happened since then that have convinced him that it was Nathan, not Natasha, but now he's broken up with Natasha and is claiming that he's not in love with her anymore, but he's still pretty convinced it was Nathan that killed Mark. I don't even know, maybe he is still in love with her, and is thinking that if he can get Nathan caught for the murder, he and Natasha can still be together. But at the moment it's just seeming like a personal thing he has with Nathan. I think Faye asked him tonight what he wanted out of their partnership/them working together, and he said he just wanted to see Nathan get sent down. That was all. Which is kind of nice, on a slashy level, but also just kind of terrible, oh god.
Basically, I know that the Wylde storyline is coming to a definite end in the next few months. The actress who plays Maisie, Nathan's sister, announced she was leaving a few months ago, seemingly permanently, because she wanted to live with her new husband down in London not having to keep travelling up to Leeds, and she said she never wanted to stay in the/a soap for very long anyway. Then not long after, I think, the actress who plays Natasha, Nathan's mum, basically confirmed that she wouldn't be renewing her contract when it ran out. The actor who plays Nathan said that he was planning to stick around, but then a week or so after that confirmed that he'd be leaving as well, at around the same time his sister and mother did, just because he was excited about other projects. Then only a few days or a week after that, it was announced that the actor who plays Nathan's younger brother Will would be leaving, which was kind of expected really, since basically all the rest of his family was going. Apparently the writers of Emmerdale were very keen for Nathan to stay, and have totally left the door open for the actor to come back if he ever wants to. But I assume that the actress who plays Maisie and the actress who plays Natasha will be getting more permanent exits, since they don't seem to plan or want to come back. According to Lyndon Ogbourne, the actress who plays Natasha is leaving in November, and the court date for Ryan, Nathan's half-brother who has been falsely accused of the murder of Nathan's dad, is set for October 25th, so I assume that it will be around then that the truth comes out and the Wyldes all leave, basically.
Based on the fact that they writers are meant to be leaving the door open for Nathan, while like I say I think the actress playing Natasha will be having a more permanent exit, I am guessing that Natasha is the one who finally gets sent down for the crime, since someone will have to for Ryan to be freed, while Nathan just leaves, I guess, after it all comes out. Maisie I'm not so sure about - again I'm expecting sort of a permanent exit for her, and she's had a nervous breakdown in the past, and it was claimed when her exit was announced that she'd be going down a 'darker and darker path' up until she left. When I first read it, I thought she might kill herself, but now she's become more involved in investigation into who really killed her dad at this stage, I'm not so sure. She might well just leave, like I'm guessing Nathan does.
However - the storylines leading up to the truth coming out and their exits looks like it won't be a terribly happy one. Especially for Nathan. Ages ago Lyndon Ogbourne was talking about it, and said things were going to get much darker and more twisted before the storyline ended, and said that Emmerdale might be showing some of the darkest and most corrupt stuff so far seen on a soap, and in addition said something about ITV possibly putting warnings on before the episodes in question. At the time I assumed - as we were probably meant to - that this would be something/stuff that Nathan did. But then as things got worse for him, and more and more people were convinced that he was the one who murdered his father - especially his sister, with her history of mental health problems, and apparent hatred of Nathan for what she thought he'd done, and her telling him 'maybe [he] should be scared' before she left because she couldn't cope with staying in their house when she thought he'd murdered their dad - I started to think it could actually be stuff people did to Nathan instead.
And recent soap magazine articles seem to confirm it. Last week's/fornight's Soaplife (yes, I know) had a little article about the 'scary' and 'twisted' stuff coming up in the Wylde storyline, which ended with "Just who will give Nathan what many think he deserves is part of the big secret but we can reveal you won't have long to wait...". Which sounds pretty definite. And then this week's Soaplife, there's an article in the back about what will be in next fortnight's issue, entitled "Natasha confesses?", and says "The Mark Wyle murder case takes a dramatic twist next fortnight when Nathan's life is on the the line. But who knows what? Who's doing the threatening? And will Natasha save him? So far she's been happy to let innocent Ryan take the rap for her crime and even for her own daughter to believe her brother is a murdered. Will she finally get a conscience and tell the truth?" My hope is that the answer to that question is YES, when Nathan's life is apparently in danger. But it's kind of hard to tell with Natasha a lot of the time. And then the pages in this week's All About Soap where they say what will happen in every episode for the next two weeks say that Maisie apparently comes back on the 13th October, "hell-bent on revenge...", on 14th October that "Maisie's tormenting pushes Nathan over the edge", and on 15th October "Maisie recruits Cain to her cause".
None of which bodes well for Nathan. Another magazine says that Nathan is kidnapped around the time of the court case. My guess? Maisie comes back, joins forces with Cain and they kidnap him and torture him, basically, trying to get him to confess. Or at least give him a proper beating. Or alternatively, Cain or Maisie just contacts Natasha and threatens to kill Nathan if she doesn't say it was him who killed Mark/tell the 'truth' during Ryan's court case. But based on what they've said about how the episodes will contain some really dark, corrupt stuff, I would guess at torture. But that could just be me being melodramatic, possibly. We will see how it turns out I guess - like I say, exactly who will do or say what and Natasha's reaction to it all I really cannot guess. But it doesn't sound like it turns out well for Nathan. Although apparently he won't die. But still. NATHAN. OH GOD.
So. That is my Emmerdale and Coronation Street news, basically.
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Date: 2010-10-16 03:32 pm (UTC)1. I need Declan to start thinking it might be Natasha. PLEASE.
2. I really hope he does come back. Especially if without his mother he's gone off and become a self-made man and Declan's impressed despite himself etc (as mentioned in my lj, futurefic ahoy!)
3. I do hope that Nathan and Maisie get out of there together.
4. OMG the whole darker and darker thing, i know, especially as it now seems Nathan is the one who gets fucked with. And all that stuff about Nathan and another character - I totally presumed it would be him doing something but maybe not.
5. If he knows that his life depends on her speaking out *and she doesn't*, it could get very bad.
6. AND IF IT IS MAISIE WHO KIDNAPS HIM, OH NO.
7. Especially if Cain is involved...
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Date: 2010-10-16 09:55 pm (UTC)I have a feeling it's all going to come out around the time of the kidnap/court case, and that's starting next week. He might come back for the court case, given that he's been so involved so far, but if his daughter is still hurt he might not. So he might not come back until everything's out in the open - and we'll just get his reaction to that.
I would love him to come back, but I think in character terms he'd probably need some time off just to recover from everything that's happened so far. They'd have to pick the right storyline, as well, if his family wasn't there - hopefully not something to do with taking things out on Ryan and Faye again. And, ideally, if he came back while Declan (and maybe his family) were still there, that would be lovely, and give him someone to play off as well. But I would like him to see him again, at some point.
AND IF IT IS MAISIE WHO KIDNAPS HIM, OH NO.
I basically know this - do you want me to tell you the spoilers I know?
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Date: 2010-10-19 01:29 am (UTC)